Comments on: Fairey Gate http://cincyvoices.com/2010/05/20/fairey-gate/ Handing Cincinnati a Megaphone Tue, 01 May 2012 05:15:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Nathan http://cincyvoices.com/2010/05/20/fairey-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-518 Nathan Tue, 25 May 2010 15:04:46 +0000 http://cincyvoices.com/?p=496#comment-518 I echo your sentiments word for word. Bravo. I echo your sentiments word for word. Bravo.

]]> By: Douglas Elick http://cincyvoices.com/2010/05/20/fairey-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-515 Douglas Elick Mon, 24 May 2010 23:22:04 +0000 http://cincyvoices.com/?p=496#comment-515 The real question is how are Shepard's "works" uplifting the city given they're at the same old hipster hangouts people always fawn over? Two Downtown, next to Arnold's and Metropole, two in OTR, two in Northside, one in Mt. Auburn and one in Covington. Have I missed any? Way to push the envelope there. How does fawning over the same pet places actually invigorate the city? It doesn't...just another chance for people to pretend they're working for the better without doing any heavy lifting. The above neighborhoods comprise just a small fraction of the city's total population. Why not plaster the murals in Price Hill, Walnut Hills, Colerain, Mt. Healthy or Sedamsville? Because it would require effort. And admit the city exists outside the same tired enclave of hip/up and coming neighborhoods we keep hearing about. How does this fight gentrification? What message does it send? World class cities look to uplift the environment their citizens occupy. Here it this 'burg, talking heads merely rearrange "problems" (pesky poor folks) and perpetuate this faux progress that's more about building social capital and tweaking the tax base than anything else. Yeah, if we party hard enough and inject enough pretense, change will happen. Look out Portland, we're sucking down the Stoli and aiming for you! Same as it ever was. Doug The real question is how are Shepard’s “works” uplifting the city given they’re at the same old hipster hangouts people always fawn over? Two Downtown, next to Arnold’s and Metropole, two in OTR, two in Northside, one in Mt. Auburn and one in Covington. Have I missed any? Way to push the envelope there.

How does fawning over the same pet places actually invigorate the city? It doesn’t…just another chance for people to pretend they’re working for the better without doing any heavy lifting. The above neighborhoods comprise just a small fraction of the city’s total population.

Why not plaster the murals in Price Hill, Walnut Hills, Colerain, Mt. Healthy or Sedamsville? Because it would require effort. And admit the city exists outside the same tired enclave of hip/up and coming neighborhoods we keep hearing about. How does this fight gentrification? What message does it send?

World class cities look to uplift the environment their citizens occupy. Here it this ‘burg, talking heads merely rearrange “problems” (pesky poor folks) and perpetuate this faux progress that’s more about building social capital and tweaking the tax base than anything else. Yeah, if we party hard enough and inject enough pretense, change will happen. Look out Portland, we’re sucking down the Stoli and aiming for you!

Same as it ever was.

Doug

]]> By: Loki http://cincyvoices.com/2010/05/20/fairey-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-497 Loki Sat, 22 May 2010 13:16:54 +0000 http://cincyvoices.com/?p=496#comment-497 It's probably an indicator of my NOLA roots, but I view art and music as the purest expressions of the human spirit. They communicate on so many more levels than mere language, visceral and primal levels as well as lofty intellectual ones. For instance punk rock and the symphony. Art that makes you think or makes you feel is vital to one's sanity, especially in the modern day when so much is prefab or polystyrene. It’s probably an indicator of my NOLA roots, but I view art and music as the purest expressions of the human spirit. They communicate on so many more levels than mere language, visceral and primal levels as well as lofty intellectual ones. For instance punk rock and the symphony.

Art that makes you think or makes you feel is vital to one’s sanity, especially in the modern day when so much is prefab or polystyrene.

]]> By: 5chw4r7z http://cincyvoices.com/2010/05/20/fairey-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-496 5chw4r7z Sat, 22 May 2010 01:56:46 +0000 http://cincyvoices.com/?p=496#comment-496 I love love love it! My #1 criteria to judge art is, does it evoke emoition? By this standard fairey's work strikes a home run. I've never talked so much about art to anyone outside the art community before. If people look at it and are bored, what was the point? I love love love it!
My #1 criteria to judge art is, does it evoke emoition?
By this standard fairey’s work strikes a home run.
I’ve never talked so much about art to anyone outside the art community before.
If people look at it and are bored, what was the point?

]]> By: Loki http://cincyvoices.com/2010/05/20/fairey-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-495 Loki Sat, 22 May 2010 01:42:17 +0000 http://cincyvoices.com/?p=496#comment-495 And this is exactly why I get conflicted about Fairey. The debeates generated by his work are of huge value in and of themselves. And this is exactly why I get conflicted about Fairey. The debeates generated by his work are of huge value in and of themselves.

]]> By: Loki http://cincyvoices.com/2010/05/20/fairey-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-494 Loki Sat, 22 May 2010 01:41:11 +0000 http://cincyvoices.com/?p=496#comment-494 *Standing Ovation* *Standing Ovation*

]]> By: Michelle Beckham http://cincyvoices.com/2010/05/20/fairey-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-493 Michelle Beckham Fri, 21 May 2010 23:35:04 +0000 http://cincyvoices.com/?p=496#comment-493 Excellent post- great conversation! Love the idea above to donate to: http://www.child-soldiers.org/home. No matter which side of the issue you are on, the point is that we have entered into dialogue with each other and in the end, I think perhaps that may have been Fairey's whole point. It certainly raised awareness and discussion with my own children about several issues that would not have come up otherwise. Excellent post- great conversation! Love the idea above to donate to: http://www.child-soldiers.org/home. No matter which side of the issue you are on, the point is that we have entered into dialogue with each other and in the end, I think perhaps that may have been Fairey’s whole point. It certainly raised awareness and discussion with my own children about several issues that would not have come up otherwise.

]]> By: Nathan http://cincyvoices.com/2010/05/20/fairey-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-490 Nathan Fri, 21 May 2010 18:15:22 +0000 http://cincyvoices.com/?p=496#comment-490 That shit don't stink. Take a note everyone. That shit don’t stink.

Take a note everyone.

]]> By: classicgrrl http://cincyvoices.com/2010/05/20/fairey-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-489 classicgrrl Fri, 21 May 2010 18:05:37 +0000 http://cincyvoices.com/?p=496#comment-489 Shepard Fairey is probably a nice guy; and you were right when you stated that what he did made good business sense. Ty Cobb was an ass. But he was still a phenom of a ball player. Clinton was a decent president. But he cheated on his wife. Wagner pioneered musical advances. But his politics sucked. Art is morally duplicitous and a self-righteous xenophobe because its creater is. Art = Human. how was that for a mouthfull of bullshit? :-D Shepard Fairey is probably a nice guy; and you were right when you stated that what he did made good business sense.

Ty Cobb was an ass. But he was still a phenom of a ball player.

Clinton was a decent president. But he cheated on his wife.

Wagner pioneered musical advances. But his politics sucked.

Art is morally duplicitous and a self-righteous xenophobe because its creater is. Art = Human.

how was that for a mouthfull of bullshit? :-D

]]> By: Nathan http://cincyvoices.com/2010/05/20/fairey-gate/comment-page-1/#comment-488 Nathan Fri, 21 May 2010 17:50:56 +0000 http://cincyvoices.com/?p=496#comment-488 I agree with you. All the dude had to do was turn around and go "holy sh!t, a muthaf#*&in school." Nevertheless this brings up an interesting point that you may very well have thought of but I haven't much, which is with all of this personal knowledge about Shepard Fairey, can we accurately judge his art or has the message been tainted? I know people that boycott films because of certain actors' beliefs, or don't listen to a band because of statements made by the lead singer. Can we, or are we supposed to, separate the art from the artist? How do you see it? If we do are we self-righteous xenophobes? If we don't are we morally duplicitous? I agree with you. All the dude had to do was turn around and go “holy sh!t, a muthaf#*&in school.”

Nevertheless this brings up an interesting point that you may very well have thought of but I haven’t much, which is with all of this personal knowledge about Shepard Fairey, can we accurately judge his art or has the message been tainted? I know people that boycott films because of certain actors’ beliefs, or don’t listen to a band because of statements made by the lead singer. Can we, or are we supposed to, separate the art from the artist? How do you see it? If we do are we self-righteous xenophobes? If we don’t are we morally duplicitous?

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